Saturday, March 18, 2017

How an early Scottish election can be triggered

Opinions differ on how possible/probable the options of a consultative referendum or early Holyrood election are in the event that Theresa May remains intransigent.  Brian Taylor of the BBC, for example, acknowledges that both options are on the table, but insists that both are "unlikely" because Nicola Sturgeon would regard them as "gestures".  Whether he's being led by his own assumptions and preconceptions, or whether he's been reliably briefed to that effect, is anyone's guess.

However, as there seems to be some confusion over exactly how an early Holyrood election can be brought about, it might be worth refreshing our memories by looking at the relevant part of the Scotland Act.

"The Presiding Officer shall propose a day for the holding of a poll if—

(a) the Parliament resolves that it should be dissolved and, if the resolution is passed on a division, the number of members voting in favour of it is not less than two-thirds of the total number of seats for members of the Parliament, or

(b) any period during which the Parliament is required under section 46 to nominate one of its members for appointment as First Minister ends without such a nomination being made."

The crucial word is "or". Options a) and b) are either/or - they don't both have to be met.  In other words, if the First Minister resigns and is not replaced within 28 days, an election is triggered without the need for a two-thirds majority, and the unionist parties would not have the opportunity to form a blocking minority.

There is, however, a small catch.  If there is an election for First Minister during the 28 days and only one unionist candidate is nominated, there will be an "affirmative vote" and that person will be rejected.  If, however, at least two candidates come forward (say, Ruth Davidson and Kezia Dugdale), it wouldn't be possible to stop one of them from being elected.  That's basically because the rules are a bit silly.  If Davidson received the votes of the 31 Tory MSPs, and Dugdale received the votes of the 24 Labour MSPs, the vote would be declared valid and Davidson would technically become First Minister.  That's not a problem in itself, because the "Davidson government" would, within a few short days, be ousted by a vote of no confidence.  However, that would simply start the 28-day process all over again, and in theory we could go round in circles into infinity.

In practice, that wouldn't happen, because the unionist parties would be worried about making themselves look ridiculous, and people would be chanting "politics is not a game" at them.  However, we should probably be prepared for them to attempt the stunt at least once.  Personally, I don't think that would be the end of the world.

116 comments:

  1. Broony with this third option, haha! The guy is an utter joke figure. From PM to a walking parody.

    No one is listening either, or maybe we are listening but no one takes him as a credible person today.

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    1. Brian Taylor of the BBC thinks he's a credible person.

      MEGALOLZ

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    2. Dugdale's Irrelevant Suicide SquadMarch 18, 2017 at 5:44 PM

      Paul Kavanagh‏ @weegingerdug 50mins

      Gordie says there are more than 2 positions in the Union vs Indy debate, & that's true. There's Union, Indy, & Living on Another Planet

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    3. Read @NicolaSturgeon's address to SNP conference in full. #SNP17


      https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_s_address_to_snp_spring_conference_2017

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    4. scotland's choice scotland's voiceMarch 19, 2017 at 12:59 AM

      Liam O'Hare‏Verified account @Liam_O_Hare 59 minutes ago

      ComRes poll: a majority of Scots disagree that a referendum should take place only after Brexit has been completed (excl. don't knows).

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  2. Unionists and HM press are conveniently forgetting that the Scottish Government put forward a number of reasonable proposals to keep Scotland in the UK but as part of the European Single market as well.
    These have been rejected by May and her clowns out of hand,with no discussion.
    May is the one who has brought about this constitutional crisis and she must be the one to bear responsibility for what happens next.
    We must not be put on the back foot by the unionists claiming that we are the ones using these circumstances as an excuse for independence.
    The ball was and still is in London's court to avoid all this mess.
    Their fixation with retaining centralised control over the British Isles is at the core of matters.
    Her failure to take us seriously will cost her dear.

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    1. Superb post.

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    2. As well as that, as Angus Robertson said at PMQs, the PM said there would be agreement with the devolved administraions before triggering A50.

      So May has broken her word as we expected.

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  3. We already have a mandate from the Scottish people. We'd play into their hands by holding an early election. If we play by Westminster's rules we may well lose. I'm inclining more to Craig Murray's view that we might have to call a National Assembly and declare independence.

    I'm sure Nicola and her team have thought through all the options and I trust them to make the right decision.

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  4. I am not in favour of using the unpredictable d'Hondt voting system, and number of MSPs elected, as a vehicle for trying to obtain Independence. The numbers are just too close for comfort. In my view one of the reasons May wants to kick the Scot Ref into the future is in the hope that the HR election in 2021 might result in NO majority for Indy Ref or Indy. 4 years is a very long time in politics and Greens' support of Indy could dwindle not to mention internal and external SNP support, during a period of 4 years of incessant negativity in the MSM.

    Far better if all SNP MPs at WM resigned and stood in the ensuing first past the post by-elections on a platform of Independence. But is that possible under WM voting/resignation rules even assuming the MPs agreed? Could WM decide to postpone the by-elections?

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    1. The defending party chooses the date, more or less. There's also a time limit.
      I too favour the WM partial general election option as it doesn't risk our govt.
      Plus we might even get a split in the unionist vote and we even exclude 3 unionist constituencies.

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    2. What about McGarry's and Thomson's seats? They're going to be vacating them sooner rather than later anyways. Do you really think 50-odd mps are going to risk their place at the trough?

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    3. The Great Tory Election Expenses Scandal 2017 £££££££March 18, 2017 at 4:49 PM

      Richard Findlay

      A sitting MP convicted of an 'illegal or corrupt' electoral practice loses seat. Automatic - no judicial discretion.

      http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1983/2/section/173 …


      A C Grayling?Verified account @acgrayling

      Representation of the People Act 1983 III.173: electoral fraud:

      'if already elected to a seat in the House of Commons shall vacate the seat'


      Election expenses: Prosecutors investigate Tory spending claims

      Files from 12 police forces relating to expenses during the general election are passed to the Crown Prosecution Service.

      http://news.sky.com/story/election-expenses-twelve-police-forces-send-files-to-cps-10803023


      Sooner rather than later LOL

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  5. Knickerless is still to answer the question posed to her regarding the £17bn deficit.
    She cannot keep up the rant about the Tories. Questions must be answered.

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    1. Eat your cereal.

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    2. Last I checked the British were still paying off on bonds from 1720 to cure the private debts businessman incurred in the South sea bubble, pay off slave owners, and the revolutionary war. We will leave aside the $ levied for air to the Irish in the great famine that never actually left the vaults of the bank of England. Pretty sure most people around the world would rather have their money entrusted to the Scots. That's racist, but so is the notion that only English seem to have that Scots can't handle money.

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  6. BBC Online: "Gordon Brown is talking about the devolution of considerable more powers to Scotland."

    What sort of idiot would believe this same old garbage being trotted out by Brown - yet again?!!

    It's like being trapped in an insane recurring nightmare where Brown gets up, repeats his federalism bull, and Scots too stupid to know when they're being shafted stumble zombie-like to the polls and vote for it - yet again!!

    We've already seen the ending, and it stinks. The day after a "no" vote May announces another "English Votes for English Laws" style punishment to show the uppity "Jocks" who's boss, weakening Scotland's Westminster MPs even further - as if they actually had any real power in the first place!

    Holding a wee pretendy referendum will achieve precisely nothing. It achieved precisely nothing for the Catalans (unless you count their leader being threatened with jail). They ended up exactly where we'll end up - telling the bullies where to shove their laws. So let's skip the wee pretendy referendum bit entirely just cut to the chase!

    What realistic strategy do we have for achieving Scottish independence? And no - it's not my job to suggest what it should be. I'm not being paid sixty grand a year like they are.

    No more begging and sabre rattling. No more divide-and-conquer "referendums" - pretendy or otherwise. If we continue to play by their rules we're going to be shafted by their rules.

    Even if May gives her "royal assent" to a second referendum, I will refuse to vote in it. The patience of many hundreds of thousands of lifelong independence-supporting Scots like me cannot be taken for granted forever.

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    1. Catalonia is a whole different kettle of fish. I get the similarity, but the Scotland case is simpler and more just as it is England breaking its commitments to Europe while the Scots wish to remain in union. Not voting is just misguided.people have had to fight many battles to get their freedom. In many places, people died. Winning an election and not getting it so you give up? Really.

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    2. Expecting a bit more realism after more than fifty years of unbroken support for independence is me "giving up"? Really?

      Do you have to go to a special school to learn how to be that offensive or are you just a "natural"?

      An ineffectual consultative referendum in Scotland is "a whole different kettle of fish" to an ineffectual consultative referendum in Catalonia. Really?

      Yes, let's just watch the Catalans falling into an open manhole and then insist of following them into it. Genius.

      No wonder May & Co. laugh in our faces!

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    3. "No wonder May & Co. laugh in our faces!"

      "I'm not being paid sixty grand a year like they are."

      I can feel your CONCERN from here dear

      ROFL

      try harder petal

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    5. Yet another big talker hiding behind an anonymous username, expecting other people to listen to their tripe. ROFL

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    6. Yeah well, it took the Irish 600 years to get 75%. The jews 2000. In America 1774 to 1815 is 41 years. So yeah, shut the f up and get back to work.


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  7. Was it Michael Gove who recently said Ruth was going to be the "next FM"?

    Surely we don't want him to be right, even temporarily.

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    1. bumblefuck scottish tories for unityMarch 18, 2017 at 5:29 PM

      The tories are so wildly out of touch they just gave us the jawdropping spectacle of George Osborne now actually being the Editor of the London Evening Standard. Not a joke folks, he really is.

      What Next?

      Making Gove BBC Director General?

      (Imagine how Boris would react after being stabbed in the back by treacherous little Govey lol)

      Davidson is a tory and her chances of being first minister are considerably worse than Corbyn ever being PM.

      Which is to say basically fuck all.

      Indeed the only possible scenario where such mad hilarity can be achieved is some impossibly arcane procedure involving the mass resignations of every single MSP from the party in power.


      But it's good to at least point out the bleeding obvious while the westminster bubble media still seem to be in complete fantasy mode with the latest fuckwitted Browntervention.

      For example, how worried are the westminster tories about Corbyn's Labour party winning an election right now?

      Yet the Buffalo bullshitter Davidson leads a SCON tory party who are LESS popular in Scotland than Corbyn's Labour party are right now in the UK.

      The scottish tories aren't just second place, they are a very, VERY distant second place and would still lose if every scottish Labour voter switched to scottish tory. Which, needless to say, they won't. End of story.


      That's even before we get to the somewhat more amusing prospect of the Buffalo Bullshitter Davidson trying to lead any kind of coherent campaign.

      The Buffalo bullshitter has U-Turned wildly on every single substantive point regarding Brexit and whether the tories can and should block the scottish parliament's ability to exercise the power it already has.

      Doesn't matter how hard the BBC soft-soap her. Her position is laughably incoherent and will be shown to be as such.

      Her general trustworthiness will drop like a fucking stone as soon as they place her front and centre to be Theresa May and the tories fall guy for the next Independence Campaign.

      You can't be a cuddly photo-op standing shoulder to shoulder with Yoon Zoomers like 'scotland in union' and all the rest of the far-right trash and British Nationalism the tories are stoking a bonfire under. It just won't work dear. Back to the fucking drawing board ye go.

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    2. Whit a knob ye are. The Evening Standard employed him the Tories did not give him. Do you Nat sis have to continually lie!
      Walking down Buchanan Street today and the Scottish Resistance Nat sis were out with their leader screamin through a megaphone like some lunatic. What a mob I think there must have been cross contamination at the sperm banks.
      Keep it up what a bonus for the Unionists.

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    3. You're a troll, dearie. You're not interested in rational argument. Any time someone tries to engage you in a rational argument, you screech insults in response. Now run along; those green-ink letters to the Dreary Heil won't write themselves.

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    4. The poster above is a far-right racist tory sockpuppetMarch 18, 2017 at 8:19 PM

      Osborne is a tory MP taking the tory whip shit for brains.

      Are you seriously claiming George Osborne isn't a tory? REALLY??? You infantile clueless moron.

      But don't take my word for just how much people are laughing and shaking their heads in disbelief at you and your tory chums, have a look at the reaction outside the westminster media bubble you worship and quite obviously represent, you witless racist shitebag.

      Now fuck off back to PB Stormfront Lite with the rest of the far-right scum.

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    5. The Great Tory Election Expenses Scandal 2017 £££££££March 18, 2017 at 8:21 PM

      C4 News @FactCheck

      Senior Tories have been defending the party over #electionexpenses — but their defence doesn’t stack up:

      https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-tory-election-expenses-defence-doesnt-stand-up

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    6. ChristinaD GWC FitalassMarch 18, 2017 at 8:23 PM

      Election Expenses: New emails show more members of PM's top team involved

      https://www.channel4.com/news/election-expenses-new-emails-show-more-members-of-pms-top-team-involved … via @Channel4News

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  8. Wings Over Scotland‏ @WingsScotland 1h hour ago

    Best speech I've seen the FM give.


    Correct.

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    1. She wis impersonating Tracey Ullman.

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    2. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 18, 2017 at 9:09 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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    3. You're a troll, dearie. You're not interested in rational argument. Any time someone tries to engage you in a rational argument, you screech insults in response. Now run along; those green-ink letters to the Dreary Heil won't write themselves.

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    4. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 18, 2017 at 10:26 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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    5. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 18, 2017 at 10:41 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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    6. I love Tracey ulman! She rocks. Plus, she got to snuggle sir paul in that music video. Started the Simpsons!

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  9. Bumblefuck kipper tories for unityMarch 18, 2017 at 9:15 PM

    John Hamill‏ @sparkyhamill 2 hours ago

    Brexit unleashed an English nationalism that has damaged the union with Scotland for good

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-scottish-referendum-english-nationalism-damaged-union-for-good-a7635796.html

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  10. Why do you see Gordon Brown's viewpoint as such an issue. He has an alternative viewpoint, that is all. We have a serious problem in Scotland where views that differ from the pro-nationalist, pro-independence lobby are seen as stupid, irrelevant, anti-Scottish, doing our nation down etc. The nationalists are stirring up enormous strife and bitterness in Scotland through seeking change which they themselves patently do not understand, other than at a superficial level ie that of independence. Change that is not understood cannot be managed. And change that is not managed is folly.

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    1. Browntervention Alert!! VOW Factor 5March 18, 2017 at 9:21 PM

      Craig Smith‏ @Smicht 23 hours ago

      @Daily_Record

      "A no vote will deliver a system of government as close to federalism as you can have" - Gordon Brown, 2014.

      Why waste ink?

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    2. The incompetence of the out of touch westminster establishmentMarch 18, 2017 at 9:26 PM

      Brexit was and is 100% the tories and their usual galactic level of arrogant witless incompetence

      So Brexit and the tories aren't divisive are they? Aye, right ye fucking are. LOL

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    3. CallumSheumais. That was a mouthfull of verbal diahorea that will go down in the anus of history.

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    4. You're a troll, dearie. You're not interested in rational argument. Any time someone tries to engage you in a rational argument, you screech insults in response. Now run along; those green-ink letters to the Dreary Heil won't write themselves.

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    5. If you have anything rational to say then do try Nat si bhoy. So what about the £17bn deficit that Knickerless refuses to talk about, any comment you wish to make?

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    6. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 18, 2017 at 10:26 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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    7. Ach soo QED is the Nat si answer to everything now.

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    8. Election expenses: Prosecutors investigate Tory spending claims

      Files from 12 police forces relating to expenses during the general election are passed to the Crown Prosecution Service.

      http://news.sky.com/story/election-expenses-twelve-police-forces-send-files-to-cps-10803023

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  11. scotland's choice scotland's voiceMarch 18, 2017 at 9:17 PM

    Merlin Chesters‏ @SMerlChest 8 hours ago
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    YAAAAAAYYYYYYYY as a EU citizen I'm basically dancing at listening at Nicola Sturgeon's speech. Viva gli scozzesi!!

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  12. Trouble in SLAB.
    Immense displeasure in some quarters at the sight of Brown looming into view without much warming.

    Seems like the grass roots (what is left of them) weren't too keen to see such an 'in yer face' reminder of the last Indyref. Considering just what it did to them.

    The thinking was, in most of the saner parts of SLAB, that whatever else happened they wouldn't be the tories fall guys and human shield this time around for Indyref2.

    Well they ain't too sure about that now! :D

    Dugdale is beginning to look plenty daft enough to put herself or some other poor SLAB Labour fool directly in the line of fire yet again.

    After all, the Browntervention was agreed in a huddled meeting in with her, Sarwar and Broon.

    Very much outside the grassroots pay grade you understand. ;)

    Wee Ruthie Davidson seems to think they are that daft as well and will breathe a heavy sigh of relief as she can continue to mop up the carnage and ex-SLAB voters when the Scottish Labour cannon-fodder goes over the top to protect the tories from the scottish public's ire.

    Just like that last time then. ;)

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    1. You fash should be concerned about the 2 million that voted against Nat si ism.
      How do you fash turn them into narrowback Joke of the North fascists.

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    2. You're a troll, dearie. You're not interested in rational argument. Any time someone tries to engage you in a rational argument, you screech insults in response. Now run along; those green-ink letters to the Dreary Heil won't write themselves.

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    3. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 18, 2017 at 10:22 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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  13. Trouble in SLAB.
    Immense displeasure in some quarters at the sight of Brown looming into view without much warming.

    Seems like the grass roots (what is left of them) weren't too keen to see such an 'in yer face' reminder of the last Indyref. Considering just what it did to them.

    The thinking was, in most of the saner parts of SLAB, that whatever else happened they wouldn't be the tories fall guys and human shield this time around for Indyref2.

    Well they ain't too sure about that now! :D

    Dugdale is beginning to look plenty daft enough to put herself or some other poor SLAB Labour fool directly in the line of fire yet again.

    After all, the Browntervention was agreed in a huddled meeting in with her, Sarwar and Broon.

    Very much outside the grassroots pay grade you understand. ;)

    Wee Ruthie Davidson seems to think they are that daft as well and will breathe a heavy sigh of relief as she can continue to mop up the carnage and ex-SLAB voters when the Scottish Labour cannon-fodder goes over the top to protect the tories from the scottish public's ire.

    Just like that last time then. ;)

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    1. Theresa Trumpette and her revolting kipper toriesMarch 18, 2017 at 10:24 PM

      Wings Over Scotland? @WingsScotland

      Yoons hate Scotland so much they even hate English people who move there.

      pic.twitter.com/4X7vd6mjU8

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    2. Tory Expenses Scandal - Because they just can't help themselvesMarch 18, 2017 at 10:25 PM

      .







      Senior Tories have been defending the party over #electionexpenses — but their defence doesn’t stack up:

      https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-tory-election-expenses-defence-doesnt-stand-up







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  14. Curiously if you re-watch the rather fine documentary series, "The nazis a warning from history," as a devotee of Scottish politics you find yourself recognising some old friends.
    Propagandists, useful idiots, slavish cult followers,super-rich bigots, bloated homosexual thugs. They're all there just the names have changed. Better make sure people heed that warning this time.

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    1. In retrospect you Nat sis would not be on the side of those who fought fascism.
      Adolf would have been your preference. Anyone that fights the English is a friend of mine!
      Thought Gerry Adams may have got an invite to the Nat si conference with a standing ovation.

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    2. The old friends of the No campaign - BNP, OO, Britain First,NF, UVF,UKIP etc.March 18, 2017 at 11:01 PM

      Curiously, all the Extremists, Fascists, Homophobes, Racists, Bigots and Nazi's are on the side of No the tories and the British State.

      You remember, don't you?

      The BNP, Britain First, Orange Order, UKIP, UVA, Brittanica Party, EDL and all the other far-right Yoon nutcases.

      Don['t take my word for it though.

      Have a look for yourself.

      http://wingsoverscotland.com/for-sadiq-khan/

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    3. Two million plus extremists in Scotland who voted NO. And they have families who are potential extremists. And I went out for a pint tonight. Will stay in with the kerryoot in future. Thanks for the warning. Are those extremists Scottish or English infiltrators?

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    4. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 18, 2017 at 11:18 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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    5. Theresa gives Knickerless her drawers.March 18, 2017 at 11:44 PM

      The extremists are breeding Nat si bhoy potential NO voters.

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    6. Electoral commission have fined Tory party £70,000 for fiddling expenses #toryelectionfraud now bring on prosecutions

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    7. 70k! That is the salary of a waster Mep, Msp.And public services are being cut by the Nat sis

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    8. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 19, 2017 at 12:19 AM

      Expenses scandal: Tory MPs say party officials 'covering their own backsides' #ToryElectionFraud

      http://news.sky.com/story/expenses-scandal-tory-mps-say-party-officials-covering-own-backsides-10801909 …

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  15. Strugglin can call an early election, but the Westminster veto will still apply.

    She can hold an illegitimate referendum. But it would carry no legal weight and be boycotted.

    You've ran up against a brick wall. Not because the UK is undemocratic or the tories dictatorial - but because you lost an independence referendum 2 years ago. Now you have to repair the neglected Scottish public services, grow the economy, reduce the deficit, prepare a plan for independence (a proper one, not a load of spin), and wait until brexit is complete and bedded in. Then and only then - in ten years or so - you can have another go. Not before.

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    1. Doug Daniel‏ @DouglasDaniel 6 hours ago

      Erm... Can someone point to where Theresa May actually has the guts to say "I will block a section 30 order" rather than the usual rhetoric?

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    2. Carlotta Colostomybag VanceMarch 18, 2017 at 11:14 PM

      Jamie Maxwell‏ @jamiemaxwell86

      If Theresa May was looking for a way to accelerate the re-toxification of Toryism in Scotland, she has found it.

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    3. The Great Tory Election Expenses Scandal 2017 £££££££March 18, 2017 at 11:15 PM

      Richard Findlay @RichardFindlay

      Election Expenses: New emails show more members of PM's top team involved

      https://www.channel4.com/news/election-expenses-new-emails-show-more-members-of-pms-top-team-involved … via @Channel4News

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    4. The Nat sis have followed Thatcherite policies to the letter. Knickerless probably bought Thatchers drawers at auction.

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    5. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 18, 2017 at 11:38 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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    6. The Great Tory Election Expenses Scandal 2017 £££££££March 18, 2017 at 11:39 PM

      Electoral commission have fined Tory party £70,000 for fiddling expenses #toryelectionfraud now bring on prosecutions

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    7. Theresa May Wears KnickersMarch 19, 2017 at 10:53 AM

      I will block section 30. OK Jocko.

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    8. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 19, 2017 at 1:29 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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  16. Gerry hassan tweeting about an opinion poll with yes in lead.

    Small sample

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    1. Guardian opinium Subsample by looks of things

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  17. Theresa Trumpette and her revolting kipper toriesMarch 18, 2017 at 11:16 PM

    Verusca Calabria‏ @Verusca 6 hours ago

    92% drop in EU citizens registering as nurses in England since #brexit, seems the Gov denial of our #righttostay has backfired @The3Million

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    1. People living in countries outside the UK were not born to clean the shitepans in the UK. Our own citizens have to do it. It is failure in any nation when they cannot educate their people to look after each other.

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    2. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 18, 2017 at 11:29 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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  18. Unionists, anti fascists and democrats should boycott any illegal election called by the Nat sis.

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    1. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 18, 2017 at 11:23 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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    2. bitter auld twat

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    3. Your twat is auld and bitter.

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    4. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 19, 2017 at 12:18 AM

      Election expenses: Prosecutors investigate Tory spending claims

      Files from 12 police forces relating to expenses during the general election are passed to the Crown Prosecution Service.

      http://news.sky.com/story/election-expenses-twelve-police-forces-send-files-to-cps-10803023

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  19. scotland's choice scotland's voiceMarch 18, 2017 at 11:24 PM

    Ian Hay‏ @Busboywriter 6h


    How dare @NicolaSturgeon make Mrs May look so bad by being welcoming to people from everywhere and letting them feel safe here. #Ilovenicola

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    1. Tory Expenses Scandal - Because they just can't help themselvesMarch 18, 2017 at 11:25 PM

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      PoliticsHome @politicshome

      WATCH: Tory chair Patrick McLoughlin pushes camera away and flees election expenses questions http://bit.ly/2ndFJum


      Election expenses: Prosecutors investigate Tory spending claims








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    2. Its a terrible scandal the likes we have never seen before in history. Something the Jock Nat sis would never dae.
      The Jock Nat sis have never claimed wan penny over whit they were due.
      They buy there ain drinks in the Red Lion they will never be compromised. They will never be caught oot, never such is their integrity.

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    3. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 19, 2017 at 12:17 AM

      Tory party fined over election expenses!

      Is anyone surprised they have been found guilty of election fraud on an unprecedented scale?

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    4. Allison Street Rogue LandlordMarch 19, 2017 at 10:48 AM

      They are made to feel safe in someone else's back yard. Ask the people of Govanhill!
      The hypocricy of the elites, middle and upper middle classes is astounding. Bunch of NIMBY's.

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    5. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 19, 2017 at 1:28 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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  20. Verusca Calabria‏ @Verusca 6 hours ago

    92% drop in EU citizens registering as nurses in England since #brexit, seems the Gov denial of our #righttostay has backfired @The3Million

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  21. Wee Ruthie and her Tory Pledge against Free PrescriptionsMarch 18, 2017 at 11:35 PM

    Wings Over Scotland? @WingsScotland

    Yoons hate Scotland so much they even hate English people who move there.

    pic.twitter.com/4X7vd6mjU8

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  22. ComRes poll: a majority of Scots disagree that a referendum should take place only after Brexit has been completed (excl. don't knows).
    March For Europe 2017 Tshirt
    https://teespring.com/march-for-europe-2017
    Thousands of Europeans from across the continent will #MarchForEurope2017

    against walls, divisions, and nationalism on at 25th March 2017.
    We invite Europeans from all across the continent to join the biggest pro-

    European gathering & #MarchForEurope2017 & call for a true European unity

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  23. New Panelbase Poll out as well.

    Yes : 44% (-2)
    No : 56% (+2)

    When should an Independence referendum be held?

    Next 1-2 Years - 32%
    After Brexit Negotiations - 18%
    Not in the next few years - 51%

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  24. If any of youse fash Nat sis loosers is keen on a fat balding orange lodge gers fan meet me at the undergoungd bar on April the 7th. Ill be the one with the pish stains on ma troosers. WATP GSTQ NO SURRENDER

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    1. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 19, 2017 at 1:27 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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  25. The independence movement does not rely on nor shift according to opinion polls. We do our talking at the ballot box. We won a majority at WM and have an independence majority at Holyrood. That's not opinion that's fact. When our parliament votes for indi 2 next week. It's because the majority of Scots agreed with it in the ballot box.

    Last week one rogue poll had indi support at 43%. The rest at 47%. They are not reliable and are not factual. They are snapshots of opinion. We vote next week as per the mandate even if it doesn't suit May and Davidson.

    We follow the right path and rely on truth and honesty. Brexit is a monumental disaster and the Tories are sociopathic in their policies.

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    1. They are not reliable and are not factual.

      So news you don't like is not factual... or, dare we say... fake?
      Funny thing, I know a guy who thinks just like that. His name escapes me for the moment though. Orange skinned fella. Likes twitter.

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    2. You are honest and are a liar because brexit has not happened yet nor negotiations finalised. So how can it be a disaster?
      You Nat sis want it to be a disaster thus your attempts to undermine the Btitish Gov.
      You are a bunch of scum that want to sell out Scotland to Franfurt and Brussels.

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    3. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 19, 2017 at 1:27 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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  26. Interesting a Yoon bringing up the Trump. Every poll had Hillary winning even on the night. Same for remain in E U vote. Again opinion polls are opinions and subject to wide margins of error. The only poll that matters is in the voting booth.

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  27. The Yellow Skinned fellow is the elected President of the USA. The Jock Nat sis of course do not like the outcome of democratic elections and if the abuse from Scottish politicians towards him continues he may well advise USA business people to go elswhere. But that would not bother the fash nat sis. We may be poor but we are free!

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    1. GWC2 Fitalass ChristinaDMarch 19, 2017 at 1:26 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist Neo-Nazi hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister

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    2. The Champagne Bar in Glesga Central wis jumpin today. The Jock punters knockin it back like it was going out of fashion. HIic.
      The Scots are enjoying the boom from the British economy.
      Knickerless ist in die vilderness. Home rule is German rule.
      Vote for the GBP not the euro or deutschmark.

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    3. You're a troll, dearie. You're not interested in rational argument. Any time someone tries to engage you in a rational argument, you screech insults in response. Now run along; those green-ink letters to the Dreary Heil won't write themselves.

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  28. Interesting, a Gnat bringing up the Trump. He is a nationalistic bigot with a hatred for his neighbours to the south - you'd think him and the SNP would get on like an english-owned cottage in wales.

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    1. Theresa Trumpette and her revolting kipper toriesMarch 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM

      nick tolhurst‏ @nicktolhurst

      So, & I can scarecy believe this,MPs have just given UK Govt green light to deport 3m people if it doesn't get what it wants in #brexit deal

      Mark Oosterveen‏ @MarkOosterveen

      My dad. 82. Lived here 20+ years. British wife (dead), two British kids. Can't walk, has Alzheimer's. DUTCH. Been told to prepare to leave.


      Faisal Islam‏Verified account @faisalislam
      Faisal Islam Retweeted graeme.christie

      Quite regular this stuff now..thought all left behind in 1980s. On personal basis - I don't care. what must be going on generally - terrible

      graeme.christie‏
      @ChristieGraeme

      @faisalislam you could return to your native land, or go to Europe!

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    2. Tweet Tweet Tweet nat si losers....Brexit on course we are oot....MEP'S lookin fur work.....Nae merr gravy train.... Tweet Tweet Tweet nat si losers.

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    3. You're a troll, dearie. You're not interested in rational argument. Any time someone tries to engage you in a rational argument, you screech insults in response. Now run along; those green-ink letters to the Dreary Heil won't write themselves.

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  29. See thay twa million Scots that voted tae remain in the Union they are traitorous scumbags I hate them merr than the English.

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    1. Wee Ruthie and her Tory Pledge against Free PrescriptionsMarch 19, 2017 at 6:23 PM

      Wings Over Scotland? @WingsScotland

      Yoons hate Scotland so much they even hate English people who move there.

      pic.twitter.com/4X7vd6mjU8

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    2. How can a prescription be free!? I thought my tax paid for it!

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    3. You're a troll, dearie. You're not interested in rational argument. Any time someone tries to engage you in a rational argument, you screech insults in response. Now run along; those green-ink letters to the Dreary Heil won't write themselves.

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